EXTRO COSMESI

Côté Savon Extro j'ai souvent eu une perte d'intensité de l'odeur au fil du séchage du savon, cela se ressent surtout sur ceux plus léger j'ai souvenir sur le bergamotto que cela avait bien baissé. Après sur d'autres très puissants à l'ouverture, le fait que cela s'atténue n'est peut-être pas un mal.

PousseMousse a écrit:Quelqu'un a essayé le Repubblica di Genova ? La description m'intrigue.

Bon, bah ça sera sans moi (non pas qu'il y ait eu foule ) vu les ingrédients : Alcohol denat, aqua (water), parfum,menthol, linalool, limonene, hexyl denat, BHMC, citronello, courmarin, alpha isomethyl, ionone, citral. Apparemment BHMC = lilial, interdit en Europe depuis mars (reprotoxique)...

En fait, BHMC = 2,6-bis(4-hydroxy-3-methoxybenzylidene)cyclohexanone = dérivatif de la curcumine... donc pas du lilial (ou BMHCA). Errare PousseMoussum est

Ouf tu me rassures

Allez, je me suis sacrifié pour la science (meuuuh oui). Alors, que vaut cette "République de Gênes" ? (Le savon, hein, pour un peu d'histoire c'est autre chose) Premiers essais très satisfaisants.

Le parfum est discret mais présent pendant le montage, le rasage, et après. Il est aussi différent de mes autres savons (attention, je n'en ai pas non plus 50... qui sait ?) et l'originalité, ça compte.

Notes de tête : basilic, anisata, chinotto, balsamique, camphre. Notes de cœur : chinotto, fleurs de basilic, pin, œillet, thym, gingembre. Notes de fond : basilic, noix de muscade, musc, bois, ambre, vanille.

Je distingue le basilic, et probablement le chinotto (non, ça ne sent pas le Coca), ainsi que le gingembre (à moins que ce ne soit l'anisata que je ne connais pas). C'est frais, léger, doux-amer, et parfait pour le printemps. Si ma première impression se confirme, je craqu... euh, me sacrifierai sûrement pour l'après-rasage aux prochaines grosses soldes.

Le savon a une consistance légèrement plus molle (grasse ?) que les autres savons Extro que j'ai (amande, terminé, et vanille). La mousse se monte facilement et fournit une protection ainsi qu'une glisse très convenable. Il a laissé ma peau souple et hydratée (sans non plus égaler les savons ricains au lait de Yéti ; c'est pas le même prix non plus).

Merci pour la revue !!!    

Le parfum semble idéalement adapté à la saison. Pas craquer, pas craquer ...    

Mine de rien, j'ai continué depuis mon dernier message mes pérégrinations Extro-esques Dernier essayé : "pesca" ou pêche.

Un parfum simple, dont les notes ne se limitent pas à la pêche (voir plus bas), mais laissant la vedette à celle-ci. L'après-rasage tient bien et les différentes notes ressortent plus que dans le savon (laissant tout de même la pêche en vedette). Pour la qualité de la mousse, c'est identique à mon dernier message ; ça me convient parfaitement.

Bon, on regrettera toujours les augmentations successives de prix, mais en soldes c'est plus que correct : l'ensemble savon+AR est "augmenté" d'un pot de confiote IGP, que j'ai pu avoir pour un peu plus de 25 euros.

Tête : pêche, ananas, pamplemousse, héliotrope
Coeur : pêche, fraise, ananas, muguet, jasmin, violette
Fond : musc, ambre, boisé, fraise, câpres caramélisées

(Mon nez, encore covidé, détecte surtout la pêche, avec d'autres notes légèrement sucrées -- l'ananas ? -- et un très léger côté floral/aérien)

Certains sites ayant aussi fait des soldes à Halloween, j'en avais aussi profité pour essayé "Milano" en après-rasage, que je recommande sans hésitation : bonne tenue, et parfum assez original (sans être "pertubant" pour autant). Les notes déclarées

Tête : rhubarbe, orange, balsamique, camphoracée
Coeur : pin, clou de girofle, gingembre, thym, chinotto, cannelle
Fond : bois d'oranger, ambre, noix de muscade

Cette liste semble avoir récemment changée sur certains sites, le chinotto n'étant plus listé, et l'œillet prenant la place du clou de girofle... il me semble bien distinguer la note de chinotto, similaire au "repubblica di Genova", mais je ne peux pas dire si c'est une erreur, ou un réel changement de parfum.

À mon nez-vis, c'est élégant et très bien travaillé. Pour ceux qui porte une attention particulière (en bien ou mal) à la cannelle je ne peux pas vraiment la distinguer ou la séparer des autres notes.

I don’t like this “calite ” !

The soap had not been used yet, you can see a stamp with the mark on its surface, as received, therefore, the soap is new and has not touched the water, however, you have generously developed fungus.

Contact the manufacturer, and their aggressive and pretentious response how was that a demonstration of the extreme quality of the product (!!!!).

But it is not the only problem of the same brand, I have several more, and others are in the lotions.

Simply, this brand does not make their soaps, but they are from another workshop that I know, but even that is not accepted by the owner, who claims to know everything and more than anyone can be very sure of that brand but this is simply a warning from both can happen

Never seen that before, in whatever soaps (and I have some that are quite old now)... It's not good Extro did not offer a replacement, but have you tried with the seller? I'd be surprised they don't offer one or a refund as it looks like your batch was contaminated at the source (they should look into units from the same batch)

I did not even ask or demand a replacement of the product at all, I simply informed him that his products had certain quality problems, although acknowledging that the fault lay only with the workshop or manufacturer that he had. Although recently I think he has changed producers.

But what was stupid and aggressive was the type of response he gave, talking about his 40 years of recognition, prestige and brand, etc.

I do not have the slightest doubt, I am simply informing you that you have a product that has not given good results and that you must correct this problem, it is a technical problem, not an ideological question.

A saponification must convert any organic product into a sodium salt... Unless, due to the addition of unhealthy amounts of other "modern" products, the saponification is not complete and produces these results over time
but no, but I wanted something else to report

For this reason, the aggressive and pretentious response seemed totally out of place, truly stupid, because commercially it is a mistake.

And above all, because I have a blog about shaving that has been published for 18 years... And therefore, I should know something about that topic

It can be difficult for some people to receive feedback... sad. Maybe the fact you have this established blog freaked him out. Who knows; I do not know the guy, and it does not really matter at the end as he should have looked into this batch based on your input

These are some of my Vintage relics, they are soaps that I got in some cases without using yet, others are pure relics.

GIBBS stick , de 1932 , de Gibbs France
ATLANTIC SUVERÄN, de 1918, de Balke & Schaaf
VINOLIA STICK de 1917 , England
PARADO ANTISEPTISK de 1930  de SCHÉELS (Suecia)
SIR jabon stick vintage, de  1930, por Colonia Muelhens ( ahora 4711)
GAL con Alantoina (de 1960), España.
Svoboda , 1920, ruso pre bolchevique

Some of my Stick soaps are very old, obviously made with tallow, and their properties and quality have been proven by generations of users.

And but only one thing can be deduced from this, and that is that age is not a justification for a soap to develop fungus, not even for it to lose its aroma, my Vinolias still smell of roses and are over 100 years old

[quote="ultrason"]Je constate une chose étrange sur mon after shave "Extro Egyptian Oudh". On peut observer deux liquides un qui reste en surface et qui ne se mélange pas au reste du flacon. Je pense à un produit qui à tourné mal stocké ou dont la date à expiré. Un idée, un avis ?

Merci




I didn't mean to say that I also have the same problem

A lotion has to be formed with a part of the solvent, generally alcohol, plus water, and the added products, which will dissolve in the alcohol and be deposited on the skin.

but the entire mixture, like any chemical reaction, has to be under certain parameters and quantities so that the result is the one sought, no matter how much we add sulfur, in the gunpowder, it will not be better gunpowder... It is an example

The "modernity" of current productions consists of adding insane amounts of products, with the claim that they are high in essential oils, and that is the reason why they are expensive,

But really, an excess of oil that causes these turbulences is deposited at the bottom and ends up directly on the skin, which is quite dangerous if you are exposed to the sun afterwards, especially if they are citrus fruits,

So what was intended to be an advantage of the product over others marketed before, with more measured amounts, and tested by generations of users without any problem, become dangerous potions for our skin, the opposite of what we are looking for.

In my opinion, there is a lack of intelligence, and plenty of it, on-demand production of requests, which sometimes has no reason to exist, but this brand sins precisely, especially in this

And it is not the only one, I have a whole collection, but I prefer to keep those photos to myself so as not to demoralize the new users, and the enthusiasts, "of excess"

Ok. Nobody (here) says mold developed in your soap because of time . As it grows, it will by definition develop over time, but the cause will remain product contamination (or improper saponification if you say so).

Now, I'm sure you'll agree that, the fact there are vintage products of good quality, is no evidence that more recent ones are all crap

With respect to scent longevity: regulations have (luckily) changed, and even perfumes got reformulated and lost the lasting power of their vintage brothers. This, does not make them less qualitative in my views (of course, excluding potentially harmful ingredients is not the only cause, and manufacturers also try to cut costs; this, is a drop in quality).

As I'm no expert, I'd be very careful with vintage products, especially cosmetics: for example, it seems Vinolia contained boric acid which can be harmful in some circumstances, etc.

Coming back to Extro: are the modern products you mentioned in their soap also the oils, or is that only for their splash?

Thanks

I have two types of incidents and of different importance

The excess of essential oil in a lotion, this can be partially solved with a paper filter that you do yourself (I don't find it justified with the prices you have paid, that you have to make improvements to the product later).

And the fungus problem, in the soap.

But it is not exclusive to this brand, curiously they are always problems in "artisanal" products, I have a whole battery, a collection of errors of this type in totally different brands and some very, very sold ..... although for your download I am going to tell you that generally they are not the experts who make the soap… As is this case!

I believe that there is more goodwill and desire to please on the part of the artisans, and I thank them!

But there is very little technical level, rigor and experience, and no training, and obviously a lack of time to verify that these problems can appear

Today, even to sell bread, you need to take a food handling course, but to make soap, at least in Spain, no one demands anything from you...

@Alesmv
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